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Old 03-18-2006   #31 (permalink)
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Yeah, plus she would get the majority of the female votes and probably a good chunk of the black votes, because Bill was the first and only President to openly acknowledge the mistake of slavery and formally apologize to the black community...
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Yeah, plus she would get the majority of the female votes and probably a good chunk of the black votes, because Bill was the first and only President to openly acknowledge the mistake of slavery and formally apologize to the black community...
Democrats get 90% of the black vote anyways, and a majority of the female votes. She'd already be getting these.

That moron Bill Clinton was the first, really? I would think Abraham Lincoln was before him, when he emancipated the slaves.

I really think that crap about slavery needs to be kept in the past. There is no more slavery, and it's pure stupidity to even suggest that people should have to pay for the wrongs of their ancestors, or receive anything for what their ancestors went through.
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Hillary Clinton...shes the brains of the relationship w/ her husband... but hey, i liked bill clinton too.
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I'd vote for drew22mader.

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Democrats get 90% of the black vote anyways, and a majority of the female votes. She'd already be getting these.

That moron Bill Clinton was the first, really? I would think Abraham Lincoln was before him, when he emancipated the slaves.

I really think that crap about slavery needs to be kept in the past. There is no more slavery, and it's pure stupidity to even suggest that people should have to pay for the wrongs of their ancestors, or receive anything for what their ancestors went through.
Yeah, Lincoln would be the legitimate predecessor to Clinton, but even after slavery was abolished, we still spent over a hundred years subjecting black people to a white man's America, something that was especially prevalent during the mid-20th century (civil rights movement, as an example). Bill Clinton, for all of his faults, has always been a major proponent of civil rights and equality for all people, regardless of race or sex. It's one of the things he admired most about Kennedy, which is why he made the public apology: the time was right, evolved from the foundation that Lincoln and Kennedy had laid down over the past 130+ years...

I agree that punishing people today for something like slavery in the 19th century is wrong, especially when it's assumed that ALL white people have ancestors who participated in it. The basic formula is "White person = guilty of slavery". It's sad.

On the other hand, though, ignoring what happened 140 years ago is complete ignorance and a sure way to repeat not history, but human stupidity. Acknowledge the mistakes, acknowledge that it was wrong, and do whatever can be done in your life to prevent the racism. Either way, keeping it completely in the past is like the ostrich shoving its head in the sand. Sooner or later, it's gotta come up for air and face the world.
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I don't advocate forgetting about slavery, but I don't advocate dwelling on it either. It can form a sense of "entitlement" where people think that they deserve something for what their ancestors went through. Some militant type groups would even like to reverse it and make "the black man take his rightful place above the white man".

Another racist attitude is the one like "we are still slaves, and it's the white man that's doing it, he is distributing drugs to young black men to make them more and keep him down!". Yeah, right. The sad thing is that some people actually believe that. It's a nice little "fire escape" where they can blame other people for their shortcomings, instead of taking the responsibility upon themselves to try to change yourself.
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It's a nice little "fire escape" where they can blame other people for their shortcomings, instead of taking the responsibility upon themselves to try to change yourself.
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i hate clinton....i hope giuliani runs.
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I despise Clinton.

But she'll win.
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no i stand by what i posted. she is smarter than bush x1 million
so is my dog, but you don't see him running for prez. now do you?

Michael Moore would be an interesting nominee..
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Michael Moore would be funny. The GOP would be in power for 100 years if the Dems were stupid enough to run him for Pres.
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Exactly. haha. I wouldn't vote for him, but just seeing him on the ticket would be hilarious.

I think I'd vote for Hillary. In that case, would Bill be the first lady? mwahahha.
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It will be under her that the USA will cease to function as a nation/democracy.... one of those.
NEWS FLASH: The USA ceased functioning 6 years ago
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NEWS FLASH: The USA ceased functioning 6 years ago
Yes, Bush has ruined the USA's reputation within the International community. These past six years have set us back 30 years...
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