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yep thats right. a country against Israel but still being sold ports in the USA. wtf. i can't believe this. some company from Dubai bought the ports and are suppoed to "protect" them. this is SHIT! were screwed!!! discuss.
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Well........as much as I would freak out about possible terrorist-sympathizing nations controlling our major eastern ports, it doesn't seem to be that dangerous of a proposition.
Not sure if you know this, but the company that has been running our ports prior to this is a British company. I didn't read your link b/c I have read up on it so I'm not sure if it made mention of this ordeal behind the scenes. Basically, the British co. was bought out by the UAE co. and they're just taking over.
I heard something about it but I haven't researched it yet.
Do we know if the company that is doing the guarding has ties to known terrorists? I mean, just because they are from the Middle East doesn't mean that they instantly hate us, right? Isn't that the argument the Bush admin makes, that almost everyone over there loves us?
I also heard that several federal agencies had done background investigations on the company and had cleared it. I don't know which ones, as I've only heard if from Headline News and you know how in-depth their reporting is.
__________________ I have too much respect for the idea of God to make it responsible for such an absurd world.
-Georges Duhamel
The radical of one century is the conservative of the next. The radical invents the views. When he has worn them out the conservative adopts them.
-Mark Twain
I can't believe someone wouldn't be totally and completely freaked about this.
It's like letting the fox guard the henhouse. It's just stupid.
I'm not usually against Bush for him doing stupid things, but this is just beyond stupid.
Yes and jews want your money. All Arabs are evil. All communists want to eat your baby. If we were at war with Canada right now talk radio would be telling you "there are no normal candians! Theres just the ones who kill us and the ones who wish they had the balls to kill us. Canadians want to take your land and they want your kids to say aye!" We dont blame Italy for what Greece does so why should we hold what Afghanistan did against the UAE?
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Yes and jews want your money. All Arabs are evil. All communists want to eat your baby. If we were at war with Canada right now talk radio would be telling you "there are no normal candians! Theres just the ones who kill us and the ones who wish they had the balls to kill us. Canadians want to take your land and they want your kids to say aye!" We dont blame Italy for what Greece does so why should we hold what Afghanistan did against the UAE?
wtf does this post have ANYTHINHG to do with the thread? im with zap, its stupid! its wrong! its like inviting akhmed to blow me up while i pay him!!!
He's saying that not all people from the Middle East are of one mind. Just because other countries in the region have a beef with us doesn't mean that the UAE does.
__________________ I have too much respect for the idea of God to make it responsible for such an absurd world.
-Georges Duhamel
The radical of one century is the conservative of the next. The radical invents the views. When he has worn them out the conservative adopts them.
-Mark Twain
The fact is that UAE has a rather lackluster record of working against terrorists....
I wouldn't want them to guarding our ports. Even if 100% of their employees were good guys, you think that terrorists wouldn't instantly be clamouring to get a job there?
Ok, I did do some research and found that they will actually be the lowest level of security in a three-tier system. Ultimate security still falls on the U.S. Coast Guard and federal agents of the US Customs and Border Protection.
Zap, this might seem weird to you, but I'm actually with Bush on this one. I see no problem with it. Of course, he's really adamant about the UAE company being allowed and, after some research, I found that it's cronyism at work (he's helping out some buddies). Other than for that reason, I have no problem with the sale.
__________________ I have too much respect for the idea of God to make it responsible for such an absurd world.
-Georges Duhamel
The radical of one century is the conservative of the next. The radical invents the views. When he has worn them out the conservative adopts them.
-Mark Twain
I'd rather not listen to virulently biased propaganda from NPR. I'd rather see something that's only majorly left-wing, like CNN.
It may or may not be cronyism, but I seriously think this has gone too far. His own party and people that have toed his party line are all opposing him.
I'd rather not listen to virulently biased propaganda from NPR. I'd rather see something that's only majorly left-wing, like CNN.
It may or may not be cronyism, but I seriously think this has gone too far. His own party and people that have toed his party line are all opposing him.
I'm not understanding this guy at all...
Well, when a leftist source (like NPR) actually runs a story that doesn't bash Bush, there might be something there.
Listen to it and don't be prejudice against NPR because most stories are left-leaning. You might learn something.
I listen/read many sources in one day: NPR, CNN, Fox News, BBC, Reuters, Google News, The New York Times, and the Washington Post. I'm yet to see a story suggesting that this is a bad idea.
__________________ I have too much respect for the idea of God to make it responsible for such an absurd world.
-Georges Duhamel
The radical of one century is the conservative of the next. The radical invents the views. When he has worn them out the conservative adopts them.
-Mark Twain
This is a very large and succesful company that wants more money. They dont want their crazy 3rd cousin bombing the place any more than we do. The major theory I tend to believe on this is this is a way for republicans to seperate from Bush and his 40% ratings just b4 the elections. The other theory is that terrorism really isnt that pervasive but Bush needed us to believe all muslims are potential terrorists in order to get people like me to vote for him.
__________________ "Great male inventors: Henry Ford - Assembly line construction"
"Great female inventors: Janice Smith - Camel Toe"
yes and you have had people ask you where Osama is.
yes i have. so what. my step brothers and sisters are Islamic too. what of it? i know the difference between random white people and random brown people. i also know the difference between a country i trust to help protect our borders and a country i don't trust.
i also know the difference between a competent president and our current president who it not. congress is gonna shove a foot up his ass finally.
You don't see it Majinb. The president has run unchecked for so long now. No boot can be put anywhere. Republicans have the house and senate locked up right now and have elections coming up. Guys like Rick Santorum who nearly never side on the other side of the president now have a way to say they are not puppets while still looking like they are hard on terrorism. This also gives all the pro-choice Republicans ammo against everyone who says they are Bush's puppet for not rejecting Alito. Republicans want to get away from Bush right now. This is a foreign company. There are no laws limiting his spying. I believe Bush knows this company better than the companies owners. He will veto anything Congress does. We will all forget about it by next January and Republicans will look like they all have their own minds.
__________________ "Great male inventors: Henry Ford - Assembly line construction"
"Great female inventors: Janice Smith - Camel Toe"
look man, when the republicans are even against this, against bush, their own party member president, you KNOW its bad. you KNOW it. he fvcked up the time and i really don't think they will let him get away with it.
im willing to bet money that they will draw up a bill so quick about outsourcing to foregn countries to protect our borders its not even funny. they will ban it and fire the UAE from the job. and if bush vetos it, they WILL override it. congress has had enough of his idiocity
Bush already said he will veto it. So it allows Republicans to look like they can think for themselves. They can run around for a week looking like they are great leaders then bam its vetoed.
__________________ "Great male inventors: Henry Ford - Assembly line construction"
"Great female inventors: Janice Smith - Camel Toe"
look man, when the republicans are even against this, against bush, their own party member president, you KNOW its bad. you KNOW it. he fvcked up the time and i really don't think they will let him get away with it.
im willing to bet money that they will draw up a bill so quick about outsourcing to foregn countries to protect our borders its not even funny. they will ban it and fire the UAE from the job. and if bush vetos it, they WILL override it. congress has had enough of his idiocity
See, you haven't done your research. Of the 6 ports in the New Jersey/New York port area, none are run by American companies. Two are run by China, three by the Dutch, and the last one was a 50-50 partnership between the Dutch and a British company that just sold out to the UAE company. Where are the American companies you speak of?
The people who work there, the security gurards and longshoreman, are all Americans, yes, but the companies that run the operations are foreign. What's the difference between China and UAE running it?
People need to stop fear mongering and listen to the facts.
__________________ I have too much respect for the idea of God to make it responsible for such an absurd world.
-Georges Duhamel
The radical of one century is the conservative of the next. The radical invents the views. When he has worn them out the conservative adopts them.
-Mark Twain
This is a very large and succesful company that wants more money. They dont want their crazy 3rd cousin bombing the place any more than we do.
That would make sense, except that Saudi Arabia and many other nations, although they may have a ton of money, haven't exactly adopted the western style of life where money can buy your happiness, and where we can be tolerant of another's views.
Porn is an abomination to them. Sex is something you don't talk about. Toilet paper is unheard of. If you go to their house and say "wow, I like your ____", then they will present that to you as a gift. Different culture. And the American way of life is shared by very few of them, mainly the ones at the very very very top who own Harleys and palaces and castles on the french riviera. THEY are the ones that make it appear that Saudi Arabia, UAE, Qatar, Jordan, Turkey, Kuwait and Iraq are our allies. It's true that some of the populace of those places doesn't care all that much, not all of them are radical, but you don't have to be radical to hate the "tolerant" and exessive american lifestyle.
I highly doubt that everyone in this company really cares to make profits for this country that has billions of dollars in oil revenues already...
people from Dubai are to protect OUR borders 
were screwed!!! discuss. 
