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hes not an extremist, hes not a fundamentalist either... hell, i dont consider him a muslim because muslims dont kill their own people... nor do they kill innocent people. true muslims would have resolved things peacefully rather then resort to the measures taken by bin laden.
i happen to agree i don't consider him muslim and i know more muslims than not that think the same. bin laden and other terrorist are just that terrorists who have taken the meaning of jihad and distorted into something hateful.
islam is the submission to the will of god....and true muslims know that that is the core of islam and not killing by decapitation
no matter who you are (christians, muslims, etc), once you've become an extremist....bad things will come along..
if possible, watch this movie: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0427157/
honestly, it's pretty DAMN creepy to listen to what those extremists (in that movie) have to say about their "ideas" regarding "peace."
Last edited by zen_master : 01-22-2006 at 06:37 PM.
Bin Laden views the religion incorrectly and is using the religion and his pathetic understanding of it as a method of bringing people to his side (ie suicide bombers). hes brainwashed all of his followers and its truly sad to see these people following his orders like hes some kind of superior. Islam stands for peace... Thats why you see all the Islamic priests condemning him and his actions. the priest at my mosque has went on public news stations and openly condemned the actions of the al qaeda terrorists.
hes not an extremist, hes not a fundamentalist either... hell, i dont consider him a muslim because muslims dont kill their own people... nor do they kill innocent people. true muslims would have resolved things peacefully rather then resort to the measures taken by bin laden.
"That's how Bin Laden views it, he's called a fundamentalist because he believes in the fundamental principles of Islam... victory through decapitation."
How dare you say that Islam's principles include "victory through decapitation". You think one of the fundamental principles of Islam is 'win by killing'? you could not be more wrong.
the exact same goes for bin laden being a muslim...
sig it's worthless trying to argue with him about usa and the rest of the world
Man that was such a stupid post. He wants peace? His version of peace is to have all of us dead, along with Israel.
His version of peace? Shit kid, you are retarded.
If you can sit there and honestly take what he said as truth, well........then I guess he has won. Seriously, believing this guy in saying that he wants 'truce' is exactly what is wrong with our country. Truce? Bullshit. Sorry. Not gonna happen.
This may be 3 weeks old, but I am confused as to why no one really cares as to where he is located and why Osama has not been captured. MajinB + DannyK35, The retarded post I made was sarcasm directed towards Osamas intentions from the link (if you read it). In his own weird way = psychopath... How could a sane person kill thousands if not more, and then ask for peace with threats? It is a joke that there is nothing new in the news on the capture of this man.
i happen to agree i don't consider him muslim and i know more muslims than not that think the same. bin laden and other terrorist are just that terrorists who have taken the meaning of jihad and distorted into something hateful.
islam is the submission to the will of god....and true muslims know that that is the core of islam and not killing by decapitation
^You can't just "sugarcoat" it like that and easily categorize what Bin Laden truly is and DENY the hard facts on Muslim Extremists. Here's a known fact...
"All Muslims are NOT Terrorists... but ALL Terrorists are Muslim"
^False. How is that logical? There is just a phase of Islamic terrorism right now. There were and are other religious/nationalist/left-wing/right-wing/lone-wolf terror organizations. You only here about the Islamic ones because we were personally attacked by a claimed Islamic terrorist faction. Anyone remember Timothy McVeigh, the Unabomber, Eric Robert Rudolph? In India, their main concerns are Christian terrorists. The US and other countries still have problems with anti-abortion terrorists, that are most likely Christian. There are Irish nationalists that plan attacks against the UK. The war on terror so far seems like a crusade against Muslims, not just terror in general. I guess we will see what the war on terror is really about after Islamic terrorism dies down. If the government doesn't make efforts to stop other terrorists organizations, I'll assume it was just anti-Islamic feelings from supposed "life-loving" Christians.
It's not just Muslim extremists, it's all extremists. There are extremist from all religions/nations that commit acts of terrorism. People become so serious about their religion that they actually start thinking it's alright to kill people that are against it, which, in most religions is a serious crime. Somehow they skew the meaning of their religion into believing this is permitted by their God/gods and that this is their "holy" mission. I'm not into religion now because it really seems to close people's minds. I feel I'm a better person now following what I feel is right then following the words of a religion.
"All Muslims are NOT Terrorists... but ALL Terrorists are Muslim"
Esspeically Timmothy McVeigh....
Who cares about Bin Laden..... its Saddam Hussien that really should be punished for all this. We should liberate Iraq and capture Saddam while the people are suffering
In India, their main concerns are Christian terrorists. The US and other countries still have problems with anti-abortion terrorists, that are most likely Christian. There are Irish nationalists that plan attacks against the UK.
You're a nutjob.
The main worry of indians are MUSLIM terrorists... you know, the ones that are constantly gunning down indian soldiers in Kashmire, bombing civilians in Bombay, and causing riots anywhere else. India has a small christian population, and virtually none of them are violent in the least. In fact, Hindus and Christians are coexisting very peacefully there.
Although it's true that not all terrorists are muslim, it's true that a huge majority of them are. Yeah, Timothy McV. wasn't muslim, but he wasn't christian either. He was a cultist, and he wanted revenge, plain and simple. 10 years ago, there were a few nutjob christians that bomb abortion clinics, but that just doesn't happen anymore.
The main point that I see though, is that mainstream christians, the fundamentalist christians, they denounce the abortion bombings in the strongest language. However, *NOT A SINGLE* muslim group has denounced the riots of muslim wackos, that are burning down anything western. They only mildly rebuke Bin Laden and his actions, and only some of them.
It seems that while terrorism is sanctioned by the fundamentalists of Islam, any sort of violence is denounced by the fundamentalists of Christianity, and even Hinduism.
It really isn't that peaceful between Christian and Hindi peoples of India, there is a lot of tension and it could break any moment.
I'm just saying, I see a lot of hypocrisy between the teachings of Christ and the Bible, and what Christians actually do, even some of the strict Bible-holding 24/7 Christians. It's just a phase of Islamic terrorism. Obviously, someone hit the bees nest a few too many times, we got stung, and now we are taking every measure possible to destroy the bees. Christians are supposed to turn the other cheek "Love thy enemy" yet, the minute something devastating happens we pick up arms and invade another country, not very Christian like. People say it's for national security, that's fine and right, if it's true, but don't go passing Christian-based laws saying we're a Christian majority country then go against Christian values when it's more conveniant. It makes you no better than the Islamc terrorists going against their religions beliefs, and killing others that disagree with them.
