[ZapThyCat]

Originally Posted by pbfoot

how does everyone who says that what bush is doing is ok feel about this?
http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/12/17/bush.nsa/

I can't say I think Bush is doing okay, however this is a typical partisan issue with typical partisan politics. Those who don't like Bush, don't like the program and want to see Bush convicted and impeached, convieniantly ignoring the facts that Clinton and Carter did the same thing. Those that love Bush say that it's okay, and forget that they didn't think it was okay when Clinton did it.

I don't care who authorized it, it's a great idea. If the president, no matter who, authorizes the wiretaps on 30-500 known potential terrorists, then I'm all for it. That's the only issue here, because lets face it, no one besides terrorists is being wiretapped.

I heard a LOT of idiots the past few weeks saying that they are going to get spied on because they hate Bush. I don't know think people that stupid deserve to have a telephone. Nobody, certainly not the government, cares if they attended an anti-war protest, wrote "I hate Bush" in a chatroom, or talked about how they want to impeach him over the phone. If someone thinks that law-abiding american citizens are being tapped, then you're stupid. If someone thinks that some non-law-abiding american citizens are being tapped, and the government cares about your crack habit, affair with a 16 year old girl, or money-laundering sidejob... you're stupid too. This program is going after terrorists. Dirty-bomb planning terrorists, terrorists that have their number on Bin-Laden's speed dial, terrorists that want to blow up a bridge. What is the problem with that?

[jky]

Every phone call is recorded. If "they" keep and use it or not is a different matter.

Bush, Clinton or any president where, are just puppets and nothing else, they are just a face on TV and nothing else, business is run some place else by others. But they still have to win in an election to get power, campaigns are paid by the cooperation's, so we know who is the boss, always follow "the money".

[ZapThyCat]

Originally Posted by jky

Every phone call is recorded. If "they" keep and use it or not is a different matter.

Bush, Clinton or any president where, are just puppets and nothing else, they are just a face on TV and nothing else, business is run some place else by others. But they still have to win in an election to get power, campaigns are paid by the cooperation's, so we know who is the boss, always follow "the money".

Maybe that's the way it works in Slovenia. Not here in America.

CORPORATIONS may still fund campaigns and so forth, but although politicians are in the pockets of both big businesses and special interests, that doesn't mean that politicians are owned by them. They can hardly be called puppets.

Very few phone calls are recorded, and even fewer are actually listened to.