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This weekend I saw one of the weirdest things. My girlfriends bro came home on leave and brought his girlfriend from Japan. We had a party for him because this is the 1st time he has been home since he left for boot camp 3 years ago. Well while at the party people would come up to Leeai(sp?) and spoke Japanese. She would clap. I couldn't believe it so I asked my gf's brother and he said that when you try to speak Japanese they get excited and love it. He was saying waiters would clap and congratulate him when he would order in Japanese when it was obvious he was new to Japan. I thought it was weird because here when you suck at English people just want you to go away and stop wasting their time. I am not saying one is better than the other. I mean while we hate people who don't speak English we also never had a nuclear bomb dropped on us and have it be justified.
Last edited by nick95673 : 12-12-2005 at 12:37 PM.
^ yea see thats kewl, a friendly loving enviornment.
in alot of other countries, engish is a mandatory course you have to take in elementary school through high school. every time i go to iran, i end up speaking farsi, and my cousins end up speaking english.
This weekend I saw one of the weirdest things. My girlfriends bro came home on leave and brought his girlfriend from Japan. We had a party for him because this is the 1st time he has been home since he left for boot camp 3 years ago. Well while at the party people would come up to Leeai(sp?) and spoke Japanese. She would clap. I couldn't believe it so I asked my gf's brother and he said that when you try to speak Japanese they get excited and love it. He was saying waiters would clap and congratulate him when he would order in Japanese when it was obvious he was new to Japan. I thought it was weird because here when you suck at English people just want you to go away and stop wasting their time. I am not saying one is better than the other. I mean while we hate people who don't speak English we also never had a nuclear bomb dropped on us and have it be justified.
Yeah, but then again, THEY don't have a million-and-a-half "illegal-Americans" Stinking up THEIR streets, harassing THEIR women, and stealing THEIR jobs simply because they'll work for whatever they can get (and suck at it). But then again THEIR government would never let THAT happen because THEY haven't turned into the laughing stock of the planet by becoming pussies and appeasing every special-interest group that threatens to sue...
Yeah, but then again, THEY don't have a million-and-a-half "illegal-Americans" Stinking up THEIR streets, harassing THEIR women, and stealing THEIR jobs simply because they'll work for whatever they can get (and suck at it). But then again THEIR government would never let THAT happen because THEY haven't turned into the laughing stock of the planet by becoming pussies and appeasing every special-interest group that threatens to sue...
You are obviously racist. By describing them as "stinky," "harrassers," and "thieves," you only prove your bigotry.
To say that they "steal" jobs is rediculous. In a capitalist system, an employer will always seek to employ whomever is willing to work for the least amount of money/compensation. It's the American way. You are welcome to do the same job for the same pay. Are you too proud to take a janitorial job for $4.50 an hour? That is not their fault, it is your own. It's always easier to blame others for your lack of motivation and spirit.
Saying that they "harrass YOUR women" is absurd. Do people not have the right to talk to whomever they please? Are immigrants not worthy of the women that live in this country? It seems like that's what you are saying.
We live in a globalized society where there is no room for this sort of tribalist mentality. We all need to realize that we are all the same and nobody has any more rights than the next person.
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Originally Posted by IronFist
They can't get along just fine without. That's why people get pissed at non-English speakers here.
No one said don't let anyonoe speak their own language. We just said be able to speak English so you can communicate with Americans.
Actually, they can get along just fine. Look at Houston, San Antonio, Miami, San Diego, Los Angeles, San Francisco, and Phoenix, just to name a few cities. There are huge communities in those cities where people get along just fine.
Borders are nothing more than imaginary lines. Just because one person lives within your imaginary line doesn't mean they have to live the way you want them to live. It is a person's inalianable right to live how he wants to live and do so in the language he chooses. If the necessity arises for that person to speak English, then I guess they'll have to learn. But, while they can live without it, what is the incentive to learn it?
^^Want a tissue? I'm sick of this shit... anytime anyone mentions ANYTHING about another race they're automatically labeled a racist. Get over it, the world owes you nothing...
^^Want a tissue? I'm sick of this shit... anytime anyone mentions ANYTHING about another race they're automatically labeled a racist. Get over it, the world owes you nothing...
I don't claim the world owing me anything. It seems like you are the one who believes the world owes you something. What does it matter where people come from? People are people and are worth just as much if they're Mexican, Cuban, African, or from the USA.
BTW, you are a racist. You think they are inferior to you and don't belong in the country you live in. You think the women here are too good for them and the jobs here are above their reach. If anyone needs a tissue it's you so you can wipe your eyes after crying about how "they" are "taking over" your precious country.
Its official San Joaquin Valley is as poor as Appalachia. In the middle of California one of the worlds top 10 economies. Stretching from Bakersfield to Stockton Its as bad as America gets. If you have ever read the Grapes of Wrath thats the same area. Why are they so poor? Why is Fresno the worst place in America to live? Its not because of a lack of higher education in the area, and some of the cheapest in the nation. Why is their education so low? Why is their adult literacy as low as can be? duh duh duh................. THEY CANT SPEAK ENGLISH. If you cant speak english you really cant advance your situation in this country. Yeah you can but not by much.
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San Joaquin: The new Appalachia?
By Michael Doyle -- Bee Washington Bureau
Published 2:15 am PST Friday, December 16, 2005
Story appeared on Page A1 of The Bee
WASHINGTON - The San Joaquin Valley really may be the new Appalachia after all, a new congressional study suggests.
The travails sound familiar. Poverty is high, education is low, and social needs abound. But the 365-page regional report card released Wednesday, one of the most comprehensive of its kind, also leaves unanswered what may be the most enduring Capitol Hill question.
That is: What must Congress do now, given the immensity of the problem?
"By a wide range of indicators, the San Joaquin Valley is one of the most economically depressed regions of the United States," the Congressional Research Service concluded in its final version of a report begun about a year ago.
Even notoriously poor Appalachia fares better in some respects.
Per-capita income is lower in the Valley's eight counties than in the 68-county area known as Central Appalachia. Predictably, but grimly, the Valley's public assistance rates are higher than Appalachia's.
Uncle Sam also seems to be investing more in Appalachia than in the Valley. Per-capita federal spending overall was lower in the San Joaquin Valley than in the depressed Central Appalachian subregion, the report concluded.
"This is a significant challenge for us," said Merced Democrat Dennis Cardoza, one of the initiators of the new report. "We have to continue to fight to get our fair share of resources."
There can be many reasons why some regions get more federal funds than others, and it's not always because of political clout. Areas with many elderly residents, for instance, can be awash in Social Security and Medicare checks. In Appalachia, 14.3 percent of residents are 65 or older; in the Valley, fewer than 10 percent are 65 or older.
Consequently, federal retirement and disability payments are higher. Moreover, the Valley does better than Appalachia in some areas, including receiving federal grants.
Still, the comparison with benighted Appalachia carries weight.
Valley lawmakers ordered the study as a foundation for efforts to draw more federal resources into the 27,280-square-mile region stretching from Stockton to Bakersfield. Appalachia is relevant not only for its poverty, but for the concentrated federal fix-it effort provided through regional entities like the Tennessee Valley Authority.
"This provides the basis for thinking that an extraordinary intervention strategy is necessary," said Carol Whiteside, president of the Modesto-based Great Valley Center. "Many of us believe that we need some permanent, regional group that has some ongoing, continuous responsibility (for helping the region)."
Appalachia has the TVA and the 13-state Appalachian Regional Commission. Congress in recent years has approved similar regional economic commissions for Alaska, the Mississippi Delta and the Northern Great Plains.
The San Joaquin Valley is currently targeted by several, considerably smaller programs, including Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger's California Partnership for the San Joaquin Valley, announced last June in Fresno. A federal interagency effort begun in the Clinton administration still meets, to mixed reviews.
Concentrated federal investment can work, analysts believe, and the new report points to the changes wrought since the Appalachian Regional Commission was created in 1965. Since then, the Appalachian poverty rate has been cut in half, and the region's high school graduation rates have increased by 70 percent.
"Forty years and billions of public and private dollars later, the region has changed," CRS analyst Tadlock Cowan noted.
Nonetheless, many are skeptical of formal new commissions or agencies.
"I don't want to see a big new bureaucracy set up to do this," Cardoza said.
Visalia Republican Devin Nunes agreed that "you're not going to see anything like" the sprawling Appalachian Regional Commission set up on the Valley's behalf. Like Cardoza, though, he believes the chart-laden study will be useful when making Capitol Hill funding requests.
Cardoza, Nunes, Mariposa Republican George Radanovich, Tracy Republican Richard Pombo and Fresno Democrat Jim Costa united in ordering the report.
In broad terms, it tracks the findings of myriad earlier reports by think tanks, universities and independent analysts. The incessant level of comparative detail is unusual, though, as is the congressional imprimatur.
"This gives greater credibility to the numbers," Whiteside said. "It gives greater weight to the data."
Privately, some lawmakers have winced at the comparison with Appalachia. Analysts, though, noted a number of parallels, starting with each region's traditional reliance on a single industry: mining in Appalachia, and farming in the Valley.
Important differences, though, also divide the regions. Appalachia, for instance, is expected to add only 98,000 new residents by the year 2020, while the fast-growing Valley is expected to add 398,000.
learn the language as a way to show respect for the country.
werd that also applies to any other country
and English is not hard to learn at all.. maybe it's not as easy as Spanish, but it's def. not hard to learn. French is way more difficult, and if you're brave, try some Slavik languages (Russian, Polish, Czech, etc.).
like I said I'm sick of this shit, you guys are all so worried about the Mexicans and the "Africans"(just because you're black doesn't mean you're African,) HMMM ever show any concern for the REAL natives you *******s?
like I said I'm sick of this shit, you guys are all so worried about the Mexicans and the "Africans"(just because you're black doesn't mean you're African,) HMMM ever show any concern for the REAL natives you *******s?
Are you referring to Indians? You must mean the people who were here before the European countries colonized America, right? Well, what about the people who were here before them? And before those people? There is no such thing as a "native American," at least not in the sense they want to portray "native" as. You see, if everyone migrated here from somewhere else (namely Asia and the islands in the Pacific) then nobody is TRULY native because nobody started out here.
It was wrong for the colonizing nations to treat Indians in the way they did, yes, but I still don't see what that has to do with the immigration problem you're talking about.
That the decendents of the colonizers find themselves in a losing immigration battle with those decending from those here before the colonizers is an interesting bit of irony, don't you think?
I love all you hispanics. You (silverdevil) being from my area should appreciate this.
- You live six to a house (families that is)
- You mow my grass for three years, but still don't understand me when i tell you not to run over my flowers.
- You stand 100+ in front of most 7-11's in this area and do shit work for 50$ (a day)
- You work at mcdonalds and make me repeat my order 4 times, then still give me fries instead of "No Ice"
- You have a "gang" called MS13...pussies, Bloods or Cryps would 187 on that ass
- You breed at 13.
I could go on for hours, but my hispanic maid is once again, stuck in my garage b/c she can't read which button says "open" so i must leave this thread.
Oh, about the shirt, hell yeah i am offended.......i should have thought of that first
One more thing, i am not racist, i hate us all fuc|<ing equally
that also applies to any other country
