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Nita LaGarde, 105, holds hands with Tanisha Blevin, 5, as they are evacuated from the New Orleans Convention Center to a helicopter on Saturday. Other children were rushed to helicopters in rolling bins.
That is how these people should be helping each other! A white woman, a century older than this little girl being comforted. If only everyone had the idea of the little girl.....
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Not that we can tell........or at least, it's not to the extent that we see in NOLA. The blacks are against their own people in the time of need. If they cared, they would be out there helping each other instead of killing and raping.
I totally understand racism works not only against blacks but can be used towards any particular race, which is very true. However, why are the blacks against their own people? How do people know this? Is it because thats what is portrayed in the media that they just show black folk stealing and whatnot? Just because they dont show any other race doing these things, doesnt mean its not happening.
As i stated in pg1 the mayor of new orleans was on the radio here in NYC via the phone. Now he stated that these rapes and killings are a VERY rare occurance. He said there were only a few cases (which is already too much), however the media is blowing it wayyy out of proportion. They are making it seem as if there are thousands of people being raped and or shot. Then to top it off people assume its blacks who are doing all the killing/raping. Why would the media do such a thing (think about it)? Everyone will have a diff opinion on this. As I stated before the mayor of new orleans was furious in the way the situation was being handled. He said that he needs help and has been asking for it, and nothing has been done (until recently, why? who knows). He was actually cussing (which the radio station edited) at govt officials saying how its a shame the govt has not even attempted to aid them until 4 days later. Like I said before, you see a majority of people who need help, then you see the govt not acting till 4 days later. Its like connect the dots and a picture comes up, thats how people conjur up such thoughts.
Another interesting point he brought up was that new orleans had a high rate of drug users/crack addicts. Now, he had said that most of these crimes are being commited by these addicts. Why? because they are fiending to find some drugs and will stop at nothing to obtain them. That is why hospitals and pharmacy's are being broken into. They are looking for a "fix". If any of you have been to re-hahb or actually seen these people, you would know they are literally zombies during the situations they crave these drugs. They are only focused on one thing and one thing alone. Obviously these people need help, not only physically but mentally.
Lastly, yes, stealing luxury items isnt the smartest thing to do. However, why do people complain if they are "looting" 20 pairs of sneakers, 20 of the same football jerseys, 20 of the same pair of pants? If a shirt says Dior on it, or k-mart on it, its a SHIRT first and fore most. These people have NO CLUE when they will have a new shirt, pair of shoes or pants. So of course you are taking any type of clothing available. Whether it be a football jersey, a white tee, a jacket, a vest or shoes/sneakers. I saw someone in another thread in this forum say "why are they stealing 5 pairs of nikes? and 15 football jerseys?" Umm, i believe its because they are items of clothing. Do you think these people can pick and choose what they take? You think they'll see football jerseys and say, "ehh ill pass on these and look for regular shirts for me and my family to wear"? Or do you reaaaalllyyyy think they are looting these items in order to re-sell'em? I mean, come on, sometimes you gotta get those grey cells working a little harder.
lemme just say this. jay i totally disagree with your point of view.
oh my God i don't have any t-shirt, lemme just get a shitload of jerseys and a shitload of shoes. Now you tell me, if those aren't for personal agenda of STEALING. oh maybe not, it's just nice and convenient to steal expensive stuff just for survival purposes.
Ok, I've read through hundreds of things about this, about minority opression, racial undertones in the relief efforts, etc. And to be honest, Kanye West loves attention. He craves it, whether positive or negative, he has to have attention. He cried when he didn't win an award, well, tough shit sonny boy, your album wasn't that great, and the critics found the same to be true. You lose, get over it. He's obviously insecure and needs acceptance. Well, this seems to be a perfect way to get it, assuming you're trying to infuriate a bunch of mongoloids. The relief efforts in New Orleans are racist? Yeah, whatever... There are white people as well as black people down there, mexicans, whatever, all races are represented. So maybe, just maybe, Bush is racist, against everyone who's not named Bush, regardless of race. That's a cop out and you're looking for someone to blame for your lack of ability to make a way for yourself, period. You feel opressed? What have you done to get out of poverty? Live off of the government cheese? Seriously, I don't feel the least bit sorry for someone that's not willing to work towards making themself better. How about you go out and get a job and work towards advancing your place in society? Don't sit and wait for your hand out to come in and expect it to get larger. Up until this point, I'm sure this will be a racist statement in someone's eyes, regardless of the fact that I haven't been race specific, racism is what is in your mind. You're going to sit and point your finger at me when you're opressing yourself. I'm sure the NAACP will be crying out for reperations yet again after this. They want to be compensated for their shortcomings that they create. Racism exists in this world, it's a fact of life, you can't blame an entire race for what a few people do or think, or say though. Evaluate people as an individual and form your opinion based on their beliefs. Problem is, that'll never happen because everyone, regardless of race, is not open to racial equality. The black man's always going to think the white man is trying to keep him down, and the white man is always going to feel hatred coming from the black man. We are responsible for making our own way, that's the fact here. Regardless of race, success lies in your desire to be successful.
Now, for the looting part. Again, I'm not making a blanket statement, but I'm sure someone will deem it that way, and probably deem it offensive. When someone is "looting" food, they are doing it to survive. They are still stealing for someone, but it has justified reasoning. When you're looting designer clothes, big screen tv's, and jewelry, explain to me, how, exactly, are any of those items going to help you stay alive? Some people are justified in looting, then you have the ghetto folks (regardless of race) trying to steal luxury items. I've never seen a luxury item save a person's life by way of nourishing them. That's the difference, period. If you're "looting" food, you're justified in doing so. If you're looting something that's not imperitive to your health or survival by means of nourishment, you are a theif and deserve to be punished to the full extent of the law. Wishfull thinking here compells me to wish for Marshall Law. That's not going to happen. Vigilante justice would be good enough for people stealing items that they don't need to survive.
And for the skeptcs and cynics that are going to say "You don't know how is it to be there, or how it is to be opressed, etc." You're right, I don't know what it feels like to be oppressed. I went to school and got my education, all the while working as soon as it was legal for me to (even though I did small odd jobs even before then, and umpired kids baseball). I've had a job since I was 15. I worked from the time I was 13. I grew up in a single parent household, and while I'm sure I didn't have to work, I felt compelled to. And for me not knowing how it is down there, I might not be there, but I know how the people feel as y home has burned to the ground before. I didn't go stealing from people, and neither did my mother. We worked to rebuild our lives. I've also sat down and talked with victims of this disaster as my place of employment is in a government position, and we set up arrangements for 5 families to live in a local apartment complex for the duration of this disaster, and well after. We've set up stores to help them with furniture, clothing, etc, as they lost everything. We're working towards finding housing for more, as availability comes open in other places. Those families aren't blaming anyone for their lives being ripped apart, they're working towards rebuilding their life they once had. I've sat and talked to the father of the family, and while downtrodden and defeated, they're going to do what it takes to rebuild their life. That's the path that I wish all of these people would take, but that's not going to happen. It's inevitable that people are going to rely on the power of the government and the handouts they'll recieve to rebuild. You have to make your own way in life, unfortunately, lots of people don't understand that and don't feel compelled to do so.
took those words out of my mouth. rep for u buddy.
haha i just thought bush would do that after all you've said. LOL
I didn't read everything, but there are some good posts in here.
I think there are pretty much 3 types of people, regardless of race. There are people that make an effort to help society and be good honest people. There are others that have nothing better to do than to set us back, criticize efforts, complain, pull the race card, etc. Then there are those that sit back and do nothing to help, but also do nothing to hurt.
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facing difficulties in your everyday life as a minority has absolutely nothing to do with being so completely backward that you can't manage not to shoot the people trying to rescue you. it has nothing to do with restraining yourself from going after the Nikes floating by rather than the bags of bread. it has nothing to do with going out of your way to make something as horrific as this disaster MORE chaotic rather than reaching out to help others. and it certainly has nothing to do with being so stupid that you'd do everything possible to screw up your own f'ing rescue.
these people are going crazy. they're showing the disgustingly spoiled nature of many Americans, which is remarkable considering the little that they actually had before the storm. doesn't it strike you as amazing that someone who had next to nothing can stand there on the third day of a disaster and say that the Louisiana gov't has FAILED them because they haven't been given food and water nor have they been rescued? Someone brought up the Tsunami victims and made an excellent point. Those people understood that the problem was an enormous one and something that would require time and patience. They didn't stand there and curse everyone for not saving them immediately, because they had sense enough to know that what could be done was being done. These people (and I must assert that I know there are many, many exceptions to this tirade) have everything backwards - they clearly feel some sort of supreme entitlement, and they need to get their egos and tiny little brains in check.
I feel horrible about what happened, and I'm trying to keep track of it from here in England, and I wouldn't wish this sort of horror on anyone. But I'm also thoroughly disgusted at the sorry display of the worst of human nature. A lot of these victims, as far out of luck as they may be, should be absolutely ashamed of themselves.
Another interesting point he brought up was that new orleans had a high rate of drug users/crack addicts. Now, he had said that most of these crimes are being commited by these addicts. Why? because they are fiending to find some drugs and will stop at nothing to obtain them. That is why hospitals and pharmacy's are being broken into. They are looking for a "fix". If any of you have been to re-hahb or actually seen these people, you would know they are literally zombies during the situations they crave these drugs. They are only focused on one thing and one thing alone. Obviously these people need help, not only physically but mentally.
Lastly, yes, stealing luxury items isnt the smartest thing to do. However, why do people complain if they are "looting" 20 pairs of sneakers, 20 of the same football jerseys, 20 of the same pair of pants? If a shirt says Dior on it, or k-mart on it, its a SHIRT first and fore most. These people have NO CLUE when they will have a new shirt, pair of shoes or pants. So of course you are taking any type of clothing available. Whether it be a football jersey, a white tee, a jacket, a vest or shoes/sneakers. I saw someone in another thread in this forum say "why are they stealing 5 pairs of nikes? and 15 football jerseys?" Umm, i believe its because they are items of clothing. Do you think these people can pick and choose what they take? You think they'll see football jerseys and say, "ehh ill pass on these and look for regular shirts for me and my family to wear"? Or do you reaaaalllyyyy think they are looting these items in order to re-sell'em? I mean, come on, sometimes you gotta get those grey cells working a little harder.
You make interesting points, and I'd wager the first point is something to do with the second point. The general rationale tells me that these people will stop at nothing to get their next fix. The problem with them not knowing when it will come is that they also do not have a way to pay for it either. I suppose they figure that stealing the above mentioned luxury items would give them something to barter with. Defending criminals is something I choose not to do. Nor do I feel like giving them an excuse or a cop out. The fact of the matter is, these people are stealing these items lokoing for one of two things. Something to barter with, or something that they could sell. They are the definition of ghetto. Yes, I absoloutely believe that these people are looting these items to re-sale. Which would explain them skimming the items for certain ones. I don't knnow if your neck of the woods gets CNN, MSNBC, Foxnews, etc, but flip it over there. They aren't grabbing everything. They're grabbing the designer stuff. They're actually going through the items and getting specific stuff. And, they're going into stores and sorting through stacks of stuff getting certain things. Maybe my eyes are decieving me, but if they don't want to be portrayed negatively, perhaps they shouldn't be so materialistic when rationing. They're stealing items for their personal gain, not for their personal health/survival needs. We also understand that there are some of these people raping and pillaging the victims as well. They're shooting at teh police, and in case you didn't notice, the police are there to protect and serve. They're there to help them, yet they feel compelled to pop off rounds in their direction. Perhaps they are ungrateful of the efforts. Sorry, but the resources are being used as they're available. But these ghetto people are adding to teh body count. Now some little girl, or little boy is added to the list of one that's not going to have a daddy or mommy growing up because someone wanted to take a jersey, or to get their next fix, or their next lay. Sorry, but New Orleans, for the most part, is the shoehorn of the United States. This could not have happened in a worse area as far as organizing relief because those people have a lower sense or moral. Not all of them, but as a whole, yeah, the standard of living is slightly lower. I'm not trying to demoralize them, nor am I saying the recovery efforts are fruitless, etc, because they are still human beings and they don't deserve the horrific deaths that are occuring. It's just sad to me to see the people attempting to benefit off of these horrendous circumstances. Also, I believe that the safety workers (including police, fire dept, ems, emergency rescue, national guard, coast guard, etc) should be commended for their efforts. They are putting their lives on teh line for people they don't even know. I also think hyou should keep the families of teh two officers that committed suicide because they couldn't deal with the tragedy surrounding them's families. They are going through tough times trying to fgure out and explain why.
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Ok...here's hopefully my one take on this whole topic from beginning to end.
First thing first...Kanye is a self serving ego factory. I absolutely love how people who can be so stupid and careless are allowed to make that much money...it blows my mind. "George Bush Doesn't Like Black People" was such a powerful statement Kanye...you idiot. Well NBC did cut that out but thanks to the good folks at CNN it was aired about 50 times all in the time it took me to shave in the morning...jesus. Bottom line is Kanye doesn't speak for everyone even though he'd like to think he is. He just made himself look like a complete moron on national television is all.
But yeah...media coverage. ok. It's quite clear that contrary to Megadeth's greatest track...Peace DOESN'T Sell. CNN (for example) love a tragedy don't they? I mean they were all over the war and the Tsunami was awsome for ratings but let's face it...what they really love is a tragedy on home soil. Then all the fake ass camera jockeys like Wolf Blitzer (what the fukc kinda name is that anyway) can sit there and try their best to pretend they give a damn about anything more than their image. That Aaron Brown guy makes me want to shoot myself....!!!
On a daily basis we sit here and poke at the middle east for being savages and critisize how violent they are. Fact is that we're no better in the same situations. Look what happens when lawlessness takes over a city. It goes to shit and the people that the law is there to protect your from go wild. Now you have armed gunmen trying to take over a city and terrorising the innocent people they share it with. The military is called in to defend them and all hell breaks loose. Now you have a small scale civil war and you're not only evacuating people away from the aftermath of disaster but from the very people who live there with them. I believe in the shoot to kill system in this case. If some thug is carrying a loaded gun in the streets and using it to fire at rescue workers or hold up supply shipments or innocent people then BANG FUKC 'EM DEAD!
ok...I'm done here but yeah Kanye is a waste of good conversation...moving on..hehe
i agree with mr. west. why would he care. i mean yeah he cares as a human but in general he shouldnt advance their cause. they dont and wont vote for him. all they do is bad mouth him. fund his opponents, then bad mouth him about not coming to the naacp meeting so they can bad mouth him in person. they need to learn to be like corporations and give money to whoever will take it and say everything behind doors.
them=naacp
i know not all african americans are the naacp
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