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Originally Posted by ZapThyCat Why not? Conservatives and especially the "Christian Right" are the only ones you ever attack anyways. Sure, they have their problems and issues, but that is best heard from by someone like me, who knows their faults and still worships the same God they worship, rather than someone like you, who would lump us all together and try to legally remove our God from us, and us from our God....
As much as I dislike Christianity in politics, I really despise Athiesm in politics. Christians don't attack athiests, whereas athiests have an all-consuming hatred for Christians and use any method they can to attack Christians.
I see the wrongs of political Christians from inside Christianity, and I try to change it. You would rather see the wrongs from outside Christianity, and would like to eliminate all Christians..... |
I think you've really misunderstood the points I've tried to make over time, then. I don't dispise the Christian right, and I don't "attack" them every chance I get. I call it like I see it.
The Christian right, those people who want us all to pray in school, to keep the 10 Commandments in public buildings, and strongly support the death penalty while denouncing abortion, are the ones who want to push their morals (based on their religion) on the rest of the country who might not have the same morals or the same religion. I'm for extracting ANYTHING that has religious undertones from public practices because it discriminates against those of other religions. Just because you're a part of the majority religion in this country doesn't mean you get to impose your religious views on those who believe differently. For example, how many Muslim or Jewish holy days are federal holidays? None, last I counted. Yet, Christianity has two: Christmas and Thanksgiving (you could almost even count Easter). How long before those of other religions start to complain that their sacred days aren't being observed? Why do the Christians get the birth of Christ off but the Muslims don't get the birth of Muhammad off? Isn't that discrimination?
I believe the same about prayer in school. Why should some Jewish, Muslim, Wiccan, or Buddhist kid be forced to sit through a Christian prayer? I believe in equality: the same for everyone. Since we have Atheist kids that don't pray to anyone we shouldn't have prayer in school. If everyone prayed then I'd support prayer time when everyone could pray (in silence) to the god of their choosing.
That's all I ever argue for: equality. Give everyone the same options. If one religion gets two federal holidays then every religion should get the same amount or none should get any. That is what I argue for.
So, in tune with those views, I don't like people making laws using their morality as a measuring stick. Laws should be created to help the citizens and keep justice, not to force one man or one religions (or lack there of) on the citizens of that country.
I'm not trying to remove your god from you; I'm trying to remove your god from the public life (i.e. the government). Anything that is public should be without a god (and don't give me that cockamamie b.s. "if there is no god then the atheists win" because that argument is so childish and so full of it that I don't even want to start discussing that). This isn't a race of who gets more of their religion in public life, it's about nobody being forced to endure someone elses religion on public property if they don't want to(government sponsored, anyway. I have no problem with someone putting the 10 Commandments on their front lawn or in the General Electric Headquarters, just don't spend public money to put it on government land)
Again, I don't want to eliminate Christians. Those who really stick to the morals taugh by their religions are an asset to society as they tend to follow the laws and not cause problems. I want to eliminate the use of public funds to sponsor anything religious (from any religion).
But, this is another topic.
