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Old 05-24-2007   #16 (permalink)
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Re: Double Gas Mileage

Here is the technical data that goes with this post.

Check this out!!! It is also in the 2nd post.
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Re: Double Gas Mileage

Add in tiny amounts from about one part per 5000 to one part per 3000, depending on the vehicle -- just a few ounces per ten gallons of gas. This comes to between 0.0003 % to 0.0025 % acetone maximum or approximately 1/15th of one-percent. Note that is around .78 cc per liter or one ounce per 10 gallons. Not more than 3 oz. per 10 gallons.


Here is a perfect quote "Complete vaporization of fuel is far from perfect in today's cars and trucks. A certain amount of residual fuel in most engines remains liquid in the hot chamber. In order to be fully combusted, the fuel must be fully vaporized.
Surface tension presents an obstacle to vaporization. For instance the energy barrier from surface tension can sometimes force water to reach 300 degrees Fahrenheit before it vaporizes. Similarly with gasoline.
Acetone drastically reduces the surface tension. Most fuel molecules are sluggish with respect to their natural frequency. Acetone has an inherent molecular vibration that "stirs up" the fuel molecules, to break the surface tension. This results in a more complete vaporization with other factors remaining the same. More complete vaporization means less wasted fuel, hence the increased gas mileage from the increased thermal efficiency.
That excess fuel was formerly wasted past the rings or sent out the tailpipe but when mixed with acetone it gets burned, though the engine still thinks it is running straight gas.
Acetone allows gasoline to behave more like the ideal automotive fuel which is PROPANE. The degree of improved mileage depends on how much unburned fuel you are presently wasting. You might gain 15 to 35-percent better economy from the use of acetone. Sometimes even more."
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repost ..... look at my second post in this thread

and i posted that i was gonna use "acetone-2oz in 10gal"
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Re: Double Gas Mileage

ugh i cant believe this STUPID acetone thing came up again! this is getting locked and i hope nobody is dumb enough to actually put acetone in your gas tank. please think next time and do more research if you need to know why its so bad. i hope somebody locks this before it gets out of hand again

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blah blah blah.... gah. Not to sound rude but i have read all these articles, and when i posted this some months ago, i read like every article on the internet... and pretty much nothing says that not to do it other than random people on forums... Like pretty much all the articles dont go either for or against the addition of acetone to your car. So i decided that seeing as how no one i know has proven a thing to me that imma try it out.... then with the wikipedia log, and other logs that people have done on the internet with years and models dating fron the 50's to recent, and fron Acura to Volvo, most have reported a 1-8% increase on average... then the rest say no change. But look gearbox i respect your car knowlege and your input, but dont get a mod to lock this, i wanna actually try it out on my own tho.

Its not like Acetone is the only thing imma do to my car im also gonna try the FP60 frome lubecontrol.com and all the things i said in my earlier post. but yea, only for the stuff that gets physically proven by my results are gonna be used as a long term application.
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Re: Double Gas Mileage

fp60 is NOT recommended to be used with acetone. it is an actual lab-tested product with real results that is designed to work with gas by itself. are there any tests done with acetone? nope. just some guy who poured it in and thinks he noticed a difference. what happens a few years after using it, maybe nothing, maybe your engine blows up. nobody knows. what we do know is our engine and fuel system are not designed to run with it. just like it wasnt designed to run off ethanol. this is just one of the few things that bothers me. but hey its your car, you can put whatever you want in it. i wouldnt put acetone anywhere near my car even if someone paid me.
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we put rubbing alcohol in cars at work when they wont pass emissions. it lowers the hydrocarbon output quite a bit.
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^^^ ummm... read what u just quoted me on...

ah my mistake. I read it wrong. keep us posted on the results. but even at 10% improvement, is it worth getting extra 3mpg?
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Re: Double Gas Mileage

you should be looking at real issues of why your car is getting poor mileage, not trying out dumb ideas that may or may not mess your car up. the only additive i would ever put in my car is lubecontrol, everything else is useless. why dont you try tuning up your car and see if that helps. you can get 3mpg increase by restraining yourself from flooring the car on the way to work instead. better yet just go find a chemical engineer they will tell you how stupid of an idea it is to use acetone anywhere near a car.
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Tenzo 17" Rims = 29-30mpg
Tenzo 17" Rims w/ Denso Iridium IK20 = 27mpg but easier to drive, better acceleration
Swapped 17"s with Si Rims = 33mpg
Took off HKS Hi-Power Muffler = 32mpg (weird huh?)

I've used Seafoam before and it works pretty well. Try using it if you have time.
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grab an extra valve stem seal or something close and soak it in acetone for a while and see what happens.
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we put rubbing alcohol in cars at work when they wont pass emissions. it lowers the hydrocarbon output quite a bit.
At what mixture? I may have to do this when it comes inspection time. I'll happily do this once a year if it means not jacking with pulling parts....
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At what mixture? I may have to do this when it comes inspection time. I'll happily do this once a year if it means not jacking with pulling parts....
depends on how high the hydrocarbon count is. we have the advantage of having a gas analyzer at the shop. our machine is about 20 points higher than the one at the testing center. if you pass ours, you pass theirs. we have a performance shop and full machine shop and most of the cars that have trouble passing are muscle cars weve tweaked on. we just cut the fuel back, play with timing, and add rubbing alcohol. weve gotten cars that had a hydrocarbon output of over 2300 down to 220 which is what you need to have to pass emissions here.
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