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Anybody know or know a way we can contact a Honda engineer so we can get an expert opinion that pertains to Our cars specifically on this matter? I understand where your coming from with all you facts, but If 93 actually hurt our cars the manual would probally say Use only 87 or 89 and warn against the use of 93. If it burt up injectors they would be replacing them under warranty because there is no warning against it.
Just something to think about.
I'm not saying it adds power but I like the way my car runs with it right now. So like I said I'll stick with what has worked for me so far plus I will be running N20 eventually anyway.
It doesn't burn up injectors. I've found that was a myth after researching.
The only adverse affects are more valve wear and tear, burnt valves, and possibly valve failure. But again this doesn't happen overnight. It happens over thousands and thousands of miles.
however, the loss of a few horsepower is immediate.
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Not to be a d*ck man, but everything you need to know about the care and maintenance required for your vehicle is right in the owners manual. Basically it was written by the experts at honda motor co. Also another thing I'd like to point out is the owners manual actually recommends fuels with higher detergent content AND it even says that ping can occur when using the lower octane fuels so if you ask me, thats just another way of recommending premium gas without actually recommending it.
Yes and no. Premium gas DOES NOT HAVE ANY MORE DETERGENTS THAN REGULAR. So if you're getting premium to get more detergents, you're pissing money away.
As for the ping/knock, yes they say if your car is pinging on REGULAR gas, THEN you should step up to the next higher octane.
Again, do you really think the manual has a claus in it for every thing that you SHOULDNT do to your car? Again, the manual doesn't say you shouldn't clean your internals by spraying goo-gone inside, so does that mean it's safe to do? Same thing applies for using premium gas constantly.
I did feel that loss switching to higher octane. Engine was making growling sounds and just not as peppy. It was definately noticable. Went back to 89 and it feels good again.
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^^I just mentioned the cleaners because the premium tends to have more detergents.
No it doesn't. You continue to make me believe you haven't read a thing I said. If you had, you would have noticed the numerous times and the statute I gave a link for on the FTC web site that says, by law a premium gas of the same brand as regular cannot have any more detergents in it. In other words, if you get mobil premium, it has just as much detergents in it as mobil regular.
It doesn't burn up injectors. I've found that was a myth after researching.
So u did find that was a myth. I didnt look into it that much (been trying to get a CS server up for 7thgen kids over in the computer&gaming forum)
Im not like asking for an argument and i also dont beileve everything a dealer says. But could you explain why my father-in-laws POS pt cruisers injectors keep going bad 4 times while running 93. Then when he switched to 87 he hasnt had the problem. Becasue if its a myth then i dont get how in my father-in-law case this would happen the way it did.
It would be a hell of a chance to just get 4 different sets of bad injectors from the get.
But shell v-power premium has 5x the amount of detergents as required. Regular only has 2x.
From the FTC website, regarding rules and regulations of gasoline.
Quote:
Will higher octane gasoline clean your engine better?
As a rule, high octane gasoline does not outperform regular octane in preventing engine deposits from forming, in removing them, or in cleaning your car's engine. In fact, the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency requires that all octane grades of all brands of gasoline contain engine cleaning detergent additives to protect against the build-up of harmful levels of engine deposits during the expected life of your car.
Shell's regular and midlevel gasoline grades contain about double the amount of cleaning additives required by the EPA, and premium grades contain about five times the amount.
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Unless the laws have changed I don't see how that could be true, other than simple marketing. Also they do not say what addatives there are more of. Most companies increase addatives in their premium that boost octane rating, but do not actually do any cleaning.
Either way, any extra cleaning that would be done is completely negated by the fact that you used high octane gas in a car made for regular.
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So u did find that was a myth. I didnt look into it that much (been trying to get a CS server up for 7thgen kids over in the computer&gaming forum)
Im not like asking for an argument and i also dont beileve everything a dealer says. But could you explain why my father-in-laws POS pt cruisers injectors keep going bad 4 times while running 93. Then when he switched to 87 he hasnt had the problem. Becasue if its a myth then i dont get how in my father-in-law case this would happen the way it did.
It would be a hell of a chance to just get 4 different sets of bad injectors from the get.
no idea. from what i read it was a myth on the injectors, but again, i haven't found anything absolute concrete.
