I can't seem to get a straight answer from my local dealers on whether or not my car has a timing belt or timing chain.
2004 Civic EX Auto, Vtec Engine, 113,000 miles
I called one dealer and they said it had a chain. I emailed another dealer and the maintenance dept. head replied back that it had a belt, then I called to make an appt. and they guy insisted it had a chain. He was very patient though as I asked him a half dozen times if he was sure.
I checked the manual, and it's vague, it just says change your belt according to your maintenance schedule.
I just don't want to screw up my motor when and if my belt snaps, if anybody is 100% sure please respond.
If you have to convince that dealer that it has a belt, thats the last place id take it to get it replaced..lol..I cant believe someone at a dealership would say that, i guess thats what kinda dumbass's that they hire...
400ish is normal for timing belt and water pump change (and new oil and coolant). you may also want to throw in a new crank pulley, the rubber damper inside gets worn out over time and can cause engine imbalance.
One dealer said it'd be almost $900 US to do the belt and water pump. Then I called my local dealer again and this time the guy on the phone didn't give me any guff about it having a chain and said they're having a special, Belt, Water Pump, Tensioner, A/C Belt, and some other Belt for $700. Got him to throw in an oil change too... I'd rather put that money towards stereo upgrades, but what are you going to do, I bought the car from a commuter.
I just got mine done includes...
Valve cover Gasket
Adjusting the valves
Tranny drain and refill
And replaced a broken motoer mount
All for about 550 totla so i think i did pretty good..
I didn't change mine until about 200,000kms, or about 125k miles. You'll definitely wanna have your water pump replaced while the belt is off, which would also mean new coolant, and the belt tensioner is usually part of the job, but make sure that is replaced as well, and depending on the condition of them, the valve cover seal, spark plug seals, cam seal etc are probably good to have replaced as well, just to keep you from having to crack the valve cover off more than is needed.
I was just wanting to post a question here since it's an active topic and has been viewed by Honda techs
I just want to confirm what I have seen in disassembly of an 04 Civic 1.7:
I presume there is NO lock down on the tensioner? The bolt stays tight and the tensioner pivots and is ONLY tensioning the belt via the spring??
What is the Cam Sprocket torque?
Where did the crank Timing mark go?? (Is it to the left on the oil pump with a flat on the reluctor wheel pointing at it?? ~~~ If not I bet it will do because I have both notches on the cam gear parallel with the head surface but the only crank timing mark (besides pulley / cover marks) is the mark I just described.
Is this TRULY an interference engine? (I always turn them by hand before starting... I was just wondering)
I'm mostly concerned about the tensioner... It's only via spring and NO locking it down??
Any help on this will certainly be appreciated and I thank you all very much (in advance)
Seriously? Why is this still a debate? The 2001-2005 civics have a timing BELT I know this because I pulled off my old one when I replaced it. It most definately was black, cracked, and NOT a chain.
If you guys want to go out and buy a timing chain for your D17's, then make sure you keep your receipts and have fare for a cab, because you will calling a cab to take you back to Honda to switch your chain for a belt.