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Old 03-15-2005   #1 (permalink)
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Exclamation first track day ?

Taking my car onto a race track for a track day in a few weeks. I'm interested about other 7th gen'ers about how they go racing around a track?

How hard do you push your vic.... like I mean change gears at 6,000-6,500 all day long or 7k redline is all day long?
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its been said by the old and the wise that 6500k is ideal shift point
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on an oval track? Meh, if i was on an oval track i'd just accelerate normally til i came into some traffic, then have some fun
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Couple of tips.

1. Bring at least a gallon of Distiled water (its not for you to drink, its just incase you over heat the car..)

2. Check your oil prior to the event, and bring a quart or two to the track.

3. Have your brakes blead before the event (boiling brake fluid isnt fun) and bring at least a liter of fluid to the track. Incase you do end up boiling the fluid and need to flush/bleed the brakes at the track.

4. Bring a 5 gallon Gas can... Running out of gas at the track isnt fun either..

5. late Apex EVERY THING.

6. Keep your head up and looking as far ahead as you can... and remember to check your mirrors often. Nothings worse then being stuck behind a slow driver that isnt paying attention to the people behind them. Giving a Point by isnt a bad thing....

7. Remember to check your tire Preasures prior to the event... you should run them a few LBS harder then what you do for street driving. I run mine at 38 Front and 33 rear. Your optimum PSI will be different then that.

8. Dont drive past your abilities... and if you are going to go off track, dont try to be a hero and slid it sideways to try and save the car... Play it safe and Go off straight. its cheeper to replace a bumper or a front lip then it is to replace Fenders, Doors, quarter pannles and a roof... (Sliding sideways off track is a sure fire way to roll the car)


Remember to have fun, after all its the whole point of being there... and try to keep the shiny side up.
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its been said by the old and the wise that 6500k is ideal shift point
no since then we discovered rev limiter is the optimal shift point.
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Couple of tips.

6. Keep your head up and looking as far ahead as you can... and remember to check your mirrors often. Nothings worse then being stuck behind a slow driver that isnt paying attention to the people behind them. Giving a Point by isnt a bad thing....
Alright, thanks for the Info! Also I will be on the track with many stock S2000's and Type R's how much quicker are they going to be compared to my 130 WHP Civic? The track is pretty slow with many bends only one straight probably just get into 5th gear so 180 KM/H. ?
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Couple of tips.

1. Bring at least a gallon of Distiled water (its not for you to drink, its just incase you over heat the car..)

2. Check your oil prior to the event, and bring a quart or two to the track.

3. Have your brakes blead before the event (boiling brake fluid isnt fun) and bring at least a liter of fluid to the track. Incase you do end up boiling the fluid and need to flush/bleed the brakes at the track.

4. Bring a 5 gallon Gas can... Running out of gas at the track isnt fun either..

5. late Apex EVERY THING.

6. Keep your head up and looking as far ahead as you can... and remember to check your mirrors often. Nothings worse then being stuck behind a slow driver that isnt paying attention to the people behind them. Giving a Point by isnt a bad thing....

7. Remember to check your tire Preasures prior to the event... you should run them a few LBS harder then what you do for street driving. I run mine at 38 Front and 33 rear. Your optimum PSI will be different then that.

8. Dont drive past your abilities... and if you are going to go off track, dont try to be a hero and slid it sideways to try and save the car... Play it safe and Go off straight. its cheeper to replace a bumper or a front lip then it is to replace Fenders, Doors, quarter pannles and a roof... (Sliding sideways off track is a sure fire way to roll the car)


Remember to have fun, after all its the whole point of being there... and try to keep the shiny side up.




Thats some real good info
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Alright, thanks for the Info! Also I will be on the track with many stock S2000's and Type R's how much quicker are they going to be compared to my 130 WHP Civic? The track is pretty slow with many bends only one straight probably just get into 5th gear so 180 KM/H. ?

Depends alot on you as a driver...If you can maintain your speed through the corners, you may not get passed at all..

last time I was on track with my EX, on the back straight I hit about 90 MPH Before braking for the next turn.. I think the S2000's of the group were doing about 110? Just pay attention to whats going on behind you and you'll be fine. Most places dont allow passing except in the straights any way.
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Geez ZZ you sure do take alot to a event. I normally just gas up in the town by the track, if you're doin a 4 sesion day your car should not run out of gas.

One thing you forgot to mention though is brake pads, if he's running stock pads its a good possibilty he'll burn them out, i know i did. I always bring a extra set of pads, water just in case and thats about it.

I'm sure they'll tell you but don't pull your ebrake after the end of a sesion, you'll wind up with locked up rear brakes.

and pointers for on track.

1.) don't follow the person in front of you, where ever he goes you'll go, don't brake when he brakes, don't apex when he apexs, just follow your own line.

2.) like ZZ said late apex everything, early apex = 4 off or worse.

3.) Don't drive past your own skills. don't try late braking into a turn on your first time in it, gradually try to decrease you're braking zones.
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i'm going to move this to the road course/auto x forum.
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7. Remember to check your tire Preasures prior to the event... you should run them a few LBS harder then what you do for street driving. I run mine at 38 Front and 33 rear. Your optimum PSI will be different then that.

is that the PSI you run on street or track? what PSI do you run when you autocross?
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Depends alot on you as a driver...If you can maintain your speed through the corners, you may not get passed at all..
Yeah cool, i'm pretty good at keeping up the momentum through corners so I should just be getting passed on straights! That's what I was thinking..

I do have stock Pad's so i'll get some high performance/race pads at least two weeks prior to the track day so that I can break them in. Water, oil, fuel... everything else's i'm pretty ready.

I will also take out my spare wheel/subs/passanger and rear seats.....
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is that the PSI you run on street or track? what PSI do you run when you autocross?

Those are autocross PSI for a set of Falken Azenis Sports, with around -2 deg camber on the nose. The less camber you're running the Higher the Psi you'll need to reduce tire roll over. I ran them in the 40's when I had less camber. (Tire size is 205/50-15) For the street I have a set of 17's with allseason tires on them in 215/45-17.. I normally run them 32-33 front 30 Rear.


Hawk, it is a lot of crap to bring.. but I'd rather have it on hand and not need it then need it and not have it around.
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Hawk, it is a lot of crap to bring.. but I'd rather have it on hand and not need it then need it and not have it around.
yea that is true. I really don't bring all that stuff because i know one of the guys on my team will have whatever i need, besides brake pads so those i bring. It's nice goin to a track with a group of 5 guys, it helps
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Theres no need to pull seats out. Youre not on a timer so why waste the time? They'll make you pull the subs and anything else not bolted down.
Make sure the car has a full gas tank when you start, check your oil and water. I overfill the oil about 1/2 a quart because VTEC historically has a tendency to consume a little oil on the track and it keeps the oil on the pickup in hard corners. Just go out and don't make an ass of yourself. Nothing is worse than a hotshot noob. Just have good track manners and follow the leader for a few laps (they'll probably force the novice group to do this anyways). Wave faster cars by so you don't hold anyone up. If you're faster than someone else, don't ride their ass. Theres no reason to make someone nervous by filling their mirrors, they know you're there and should let you by at the next passing zone (long straight).
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