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Old 02-25-2004   #1 (permalink)
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Arrow Auto-X Glossary?

Hey guys...I was reading some stuff on my local AutoX site, and they were talking about on/off camber turns...um...WTF is THAT!!!??? lol

I know I should search, but I thought this (proposed AutoX glossary) would make a GREAT sticky on this site!! Just an idea...
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On camber turn: when the surface of the road is tilted twards the inside of the turn, example: the banked turns at a super speedway.

Off camber turn: when the surface of the road is tilted away fromt the inside of the turn.


the difference betweent the two... On camber turns will allow more grip and thus higher cornering speeds, an Off camber turn will do just the opposite, less grip and lower cornering speeds.
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HA!!! See there, I knew it!!....ok not really, but THANKS!!!

Let's get a glossary goin' here...
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Pointer cone: a cone placed on its side with its top pointing in the direction of the corner.

Apex: the middle of the corner, typically fastest to "apex a corner"... taking the straightest possible line through the corner.


Chicane: a corner/obsticle requiring a quick and small change line sideways, but continuing in the same direction. Can either be 1 move or 2 and may not be even.


Slalom: Back and forth between a line of cones. A double arrow at the start indicates a driver option to take either side of the first cone. Often wise to choose the side that provides the best setup into the corner following the slalom.
No direction option may be indicated by pointer cones or a marked arrow showing the required direction.


Race lines are approximate, I used paint... its does what it wants.
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haha nice pics
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you get an "A" for effort. keep them comin, im lookin into getting into auto-x this summer and could use some good info from the Vets.

so far ive learned 2 things, what a pointer cone is(and how it may be used), and im am not the only one that sucks at using the Paint accessory on my computer

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good info though
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off camber turns suck hardcore.... Very easy to **** up on and send you into the area you're not supposed to be...
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off camber turns suck hardcore.... Very easy to **** up on and send you into the area you're not supposed to be...

NO DOUBT!!!


Here's a good example of an off camber turn...look at how much the parking lot slopes!!!



YES...I know...I'm WAYYYYY off in the attitude of my car, but to my defense, it was the first run, and I was going into it a little too hot, lol. Oh, well...live and learn!!

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Does anyone else do this...I look at the pics from each run of each race, and see what I did right/wrong in every section, and try to learn from that...kinda like watching a vid, only less technical...lol.

Anyway...here's a chop of that same pic, with my second run car as the ghost car (GT3 style). Second run was MUCH better, IMO.

It's just kinda cool to see where you messed up, and where you fixed things.
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actually a chicane is a turn, looking like an S turn, that is really tight, designed to reduce speeds. A SLOW sequence of turns.
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what you drew, described, as a chicane is more of a sweeping turn or sweeper.
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My faverite are chicago boxes... love thos things cause most people take them wrong.... or have to wide of cars to take them fast











edit: stupid thing doesnt come out right
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WTF???
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Chicago boxes are simmilar to Lane changes, but smaller and tigther

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ah...there we go!!
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i was considering buying a few cones off of ebay and going to a parking lot and practicing, is that a good idea? i mean, i think that cones make it a little more difficult to "see" the track, which in turn, makes it harder to "see" and therefore make, a better line

you know what i mean?
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EDIT: Don't do that...you could get VERY busted!! lol
















I'll still prolly try it, lol. I like to learn the hard way, lol.

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oo man don't do that, you'll get a ticked faster than a mo fo. and if the cops a ****, impound your car. parking lots are private property.
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I found this....

AUTO SPEAK


It doesn't have ALL the terms I've heard, but it has A LOT of them...
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would it only be illegal due to trespassing? or would circling the cones be illegal too?
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would it only be illegal due to trespassing? or would circling the cones be illegal too?
Well...it depends upon the parking lot, time of day, and whether the cop wants to be an *******.

You could, in theory, be cited for wreckless driving/endangerment, racing (12 pt. ticket, auto-loss of license in CO), theft (cones), trespassing, noise ordanance violation(s) (depending upon your exhaust/tire squeel dB level), etc.


The thing people don't realize is that a cop can ticket you for just about anything he wants to, now whether or not it STICKS in court is another story, but it's still a hassle to be avioded IMO.
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yeah, i hear ya, those citations were the ones i was thinking of too
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