projector headlights vs clear stock?

mattsangel8386 · 07-20-2009

i am looking to get a upgrade the headlights on my car,and i've been looking around online,but nobody says anything about the beam intensity on the dual halos?is it any better than stock?
Help please,i don't wanna buy something worse than what i've got already

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gearbox · 07-20-2009

much worse than stock. do not buy any projector style lights unless you plan on upgrading the projector inside with a better halogen or even hid version. thats what im planning on next. the ones they come with are junk and have very poor and choppy beam.

here is example of tyc projector output with bright H1 bulbs (1800 lumen)

and real oem honda reflector lights with H4 bulb (1200 lumens)

tbohar · 07-21-2009

Projectors suck... do something nice with your stocks.

gearbox · 07-21-2009

there are actually "direct-fit" projector retrofit kits now made overseas for H4 reflector housing. all you do is open the headlamp, take out the oem bulb glare shield, and stick the projector thru the bulb hole. no cutting or drilling or mounting. just rotate them to be straight and tighten the ring holder in the back. the rear is fully sealed with a rubber boot and thats it. it comes with bixenon function too and ccfl halos. just wire it up and youre done. uses standard d2s bulbs which are cheap and easy to get in oem philips brand. output looks great too. its like retrofit setup for little kids so they dont have to use dangerous tools or worry about cutting and mounting.

LT2004ever · 08-06-2009

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Originally Posted by gearbox

there are actually "direct-fit" projector retrofit kits now made overseas for H4 reflector housing. all you do is open the headlamp, take out the oem bulb glare shield, and stick the projector thru the bulb hole. no cutting or drilling or mounting. just rotate them to be straight and tighten the ring holder in the back. the rear is fully sealed with a rubber boot and thats it. it comes with bixenon function too and ccfl halos. just wire it up and youre done. uses standard d2s bulbs which are cheap and easy to get in oem philips brand. output looks great too. its like retrofit setup for little kids so they dont have to use dangerous tools or worry about cutting and mounting.

LOL i was just looking at those like 2 days ago! they seemed kinda cheezy tho

gearbox · 08-06-2009

well they are limited by size, only 2 inch lens will prolly make it the worst of the real hid projectors. its better than pnp kit, but prolly wont look as bright as the expensive and big oem projectors. but its an option. not everyone can fit or afford a giant projector.

FRCornelis · 2 Weeks Ago

[quote=gearbox;4426040]there are actually "direct-fit" projector retrofit kits now made overseas for H4 reflector housing. all you do is open the headlamp, take out the oem bulb glare shield, and stick the projector thru the bulb hole. no cutting or drilling or mounting. just rotate them to be straight and tighten the ring holder in the back. the rear is fully sealed with a rubber boot and thats it. it comes with bixenon function too and ccfl halos. just wire it up and youre done. uses standard d2s bulbs which are cheap and easy to get in oem philips brand. output looks great too. its like retrofit setup for little kids so they dont have to use dangerous tools or worry about cutting and mounting.

Gearbox, this is exactally what I was looking for. I have no idea in how to cut, glue, trim, and all that kind of stuff needed for a real retrofit. I was thinking about getting one of those eBay things such us the Halo ones, they come all assambled.
Is this better? using your stock headlamps and swapping just the projector. To me it looks much cleaner than having multiple rings that I have no idea how to wire (offered by the halo version on eBay). I mean, I know you mentioned something about size limitation, but will this be descent and give you that nice "blue-touch". Per my understanding this will screw into the hole on my Civic's headlamp, right?.... If I get the BI-XENON, can I still using the switch to "flash highbeans" when needed? I mean, will the same lamp in the projector be both high and low beam?...
If one brakes.. can I just replace the broken lamp without replacing the whole projector???

Thank you, a lot!.
FRC.-

gearbox · 2 Weeks Ago

i would actually go with the newer G3 projector kit which is bigger and has a much brighter beam compared to the G1 posted above. the G3 is bixenon so it has one bulb inside, but for the hi beam a shield will move down to expose more light. so basically you open up the stock headlamp, put in the projector thru the h4 bulb hole, then screw it in place from the back. makes aiming the rotation really easy cause all you do is turn the projector from the back. and up/down aim is done the same way as when the headlamps were stock using the adjuster screw. the halo you can hook to the parking light or leave it disconnected. there are quite a few threads showing beam shots and install diys on www.hidplanet.com/forums

gearbox · 2 Weeks Ago

heres one gb thread but you have to sign up for an account before clicking

http://www.hidplanet.com/forums/view...er=asc&start=0

FRCornelis · 2 Weeks Ago

Great. I want one of those. Any idea where to find them? I am only seeing the original G1 (the one you posted above)... do you recommend a specific temperature? I mean... is the color of the light output determined by the temperature? If you want brighter light the temperature needs to go up or down?... I would like to get a slight blue beam... but not way that blue or purple that will catch the attention...
The resason I asked about this projectors if they were good is because of the price... It seems to be waaaay tooo cheap... counting that you are getting EVERYTHING... Now if I could only find a place that sells the G3, I checked ebay with no luck.

THANK YOU, GEAR !

FRC.-

gearbox · 2 Weeks Ago

g3 is still new, you should see em on ebay soon. the kelvin color temp is only the color of the light, not the temperature. the higher the K, the more blue it gets. for example, stock hid is 4300k (yellowish white), aftermarkets are 5000k (crisp white), 6000k (white with blue tints), 8000k (mostly blue). the higher you go, the more light output you lose. once you get around 8000k, the brightness is barely like a halogen bulb.

FRCornelis · 2 Weeks Ago

I see... so I think I will be getting the 6000k, with a little bluish on it... do you think the output light using 6000k HID + 3G Projectors (when available) will be better results that the XP PHILLIPS halogen bulbs with the stock Honda housing? Because that's what I am running right now since you recommended a while ago and for halogen, I agree, they are really good bulbs. Will I end up with better results with the upgrade I want to do : 3G + 6000k I want to make sure that it will be worth... 'cause I'll hate ending up with king of the same results even running H.I.D

Thank you, once, and once again.

FRC.-

gearbox · 2 Weeks Ago

yeah for sure. g3 is a very bright projector, even if you use the 6000k bulbs. but 4300k or 5000k will be alot brighter. if you want some blue, you should go with 6000k tho. i guess you can always change bulbs if the 6000k is too dim for you, but i think it will be fine.

FRCornelis · 1 Week Ago

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Originally Posted by gearbox

yeah for sure. g3 is a very bright projector, even if you use the 6000k bulbs. but 4300k or 5000k will be alot brighter. if you want some blue, you should go with 6000k tho. i guess you can always change bulbs if the 6000k is too dim for you, but i think it will be fine.

Great!, thank you Gearbox, for all your valued help and patience...
I will be ordering G3 as soon it becomes available from someone, I believe it will be a nice upgrade, since my eyes are not very good at night and sometimes... I find myself turning the headlights on and off just to see if they are really running because it seems very dim sometimes, even with good halogens bulbs and my lensses being clean and clear. I hope this combo-upgrade will do the trick for me.

Regards,
FRC.-

gearbox · 1 Week Ago

if you need it now, there is a member on hidplanet "stupidpig" who is in contact with the supplier and might be able to find you a pair. post a want-to-buy thread in the proper forum and he may be able to get you a pair.